Emily the Mystic (00:00.934)
My beautiful listener, welcome back to the Emily the Mystic Show podcast. I have yet another mystical guest on today's show. I am so excited to introduce you to Janice Stern, who is a psychic astrologer and pattern reader with 15 years of experience helping people name the parts of themselves they've never had language for. Her core belief is that most people aren't broken, just disconnected from their own signal in a world that trained them to override it.
In her twenties, Jana survived a suicide attempt. Wow, Jana, we'll talk about that today, and was clinically dead for 11 minutes. Holy shit. An experience that Rashad she understands consciousness, suffering, and healing. And she also hosts the Just Jana show, bringing live readings and unscripted precision to a public format. Wow, Jana, so many thanks. Yeah.
Jana Stern (00:52.814)
those are just the things that went in the short bio. There's there's a laundry list of things that go beyond those those those little snippets. But you know, I I the the show is called the Just Jana show because there are so many things on the list. And when people are like, What are you? I'm like, I am just Jana. Thanks for asking.
Emily the Mystic (01:13.646)
Yes, yes. I understand on so many levels. Jan and I were just having a conversation before we hit record how we are both early degree Pisces bitches with Pisces Mercury's. So not uncommon. Yeah.
Jana Stern (01:15.998)
Hmm.
Jana Stern (01:23.478)
Let's go. Mm-hmm. Not uncommon. Pisces, you know, it it does tend to move with the sun quite quite often, but still, it's always, you know, we're we're the better ones. The ones the ones that are the mystics that are mystical in the mind and in the radiance. Can't beat us, you know.
Emily the Mystic (01:33.938)
Totally.
Emily the Mystic (01:43.91)
Yeah. And what's your rising and moon sign?
Jana Stern (01:46.664)
I'm a Leo Rising and Gemini Moon, so I'm brilliant. And yeah. Girl, we find each other in the world. Let me tell you, like, okay, first of all, like if ever there were a cult that I could easily, easily gather all of the people, I would just be like, Gemini moons come to the left. And then all of us would just show up. I attract so many Gemini moons and literally.
Emily the Mystic (01:53.0)
Guess who's also a Gemini moon?
Jana Stern (02:14.845)
Never met one that I wasn't like, well, you're fucking brilliant and I love being around you. There is nothing better than a Gemini moon and we are elite. Elite. It like
Emily the Mystic (02:24.677)
It is it's the coolest placement in my opinion. I'm a I'm a Taur I'm a Taurus rising, so I have the earth and you have the fire.
Jana Stern (02:27.147)
What's your rising sign that we have the same placements? Okay. Okay. I girl, I have all the fire. I also have an Aries stellium of all of my other personal planets, plus Lilith. So yes, yes. And I'm a there you I have a Scorpio stellium also, if you're keeping track. Yeah. Uh-huh.
Emily the Mystic (02:38.788)
shit, yeah.
Emily the Mystic (02:43.459)
Mm. Mm. That's Scorpio for me. So yeah, I love it.
Emily the Mystic (02:51.697)
Love it. my God. So fun.
Jana Stern (02:54.389)
Yes. and yeah, I'm a five one emotional projector for those who are keeping score over on that tally system.
Emily the Mystic (03:03.651)
my god, amazing. That's so different. I am a one, three sacral manifesting generator.
Jana Stern (03:09.449)
Mm, there you go. She she owned it. She making it happen. Yeah, I got that. No, not a thing. No, no, no, no. Actually, like, whoa, that was interesting. Loud and clear, your guide your guides are funny, dude. they were like, they were like, tell her to shut the fuck up. Like, that's not right. You need those tabs. Those tabs are what keep you going. Yeah.
Emily the Mystic (03:14.151)
She does too many things. There are too many things happening.
Emily the Mystic (03:30.769)
The tabs. I have like fifty right in front of me right now, so
Jana Stern (03:33.806)
Same. I actually I when I when I record any kind of podcast episode, mine or somebody else's, I have to open it. Like, you know how Apple lets you have like screens and tabs. I need my recording to be in its own screen. So I'm like dialed in. Otherwise I'm like that other tab and this other thing and this other thing. I'm like, I can't. My brain wants to go in all the directions. So I just like laser in this way. But yes, I'm with you. All the tabs all the time because there's so many things that I want to.
Emily the Mystic (03:50.812)
Yeah.
I know.
Jana Stern (04:03.233)
do and and think about and read and research and dive into it's the Gemini moon. I needed all of it. I'm like
Emily the Mystic (04:07.151)
It's the Gemini moon. It's the rabbit hole. It's the hyperfixation rabbit hole.
Jana Stern (04:11.501)
Exactly, exactly. Correct. So funny.
Emily the Mystic (04:18.333)
Okay, so just Jana? Who is Jana?
Jana Stern (04:20.589)
She's such a mystical character. who is she? Well, I mean, you know, like I think I, you know, I'm I'm definitely somebody who is extremely passionate. I and I'm I'm passionate about a lot of different things. I'm passionate about my community. I'm passionate about
Emily the Mystic (04:27.357)
Yeah.
Jana Stern (04:46.421)
You know, the idea of of wellness and well-being and what that means. I've been on a very, as you heard in my bio, very interesting wellness journey myself. And it comes from literally a lifetime of being adjacent to what we now call mental health and wellness. That was not called that when I was quite young. my father's schizophrenic, and I've had a lifetime of being adjacent to that world.
and then experiencing it myself and and having you know, being dead and then brought back or invited to come back. so you know, I'm I'm passionate about all of that. and I'm really passionate about the idea that this whole reality is completely and utterly make-believe, and that we've been making it up wrong, and that we actually have the capacity as individuals and as a collective to make better agreements.
On how we exchange energy and how we value that energy, and also how we respect those who understand the energetic realms and the science and the mysticism that does like come together. And you know, that that when we weave those things together, the tapestry of them becomes so much more enriching and beautiful and nourishing for people. I talk a lot about this this concept of.
Cornucopia living, where everybody sort of comes to the table fully in their design, fully understanding, like, well, what am I supposed to do and not supposed to do based on how I showed up in this physical reality at the moment that I did? and then, you know, what do I, what do I need to do and not do in order to like live out that destiny? And and how do we create a system and a society and a structure that, you know, doesn't force children who are meant to just
Like pure, I have a a niece who is a pure manifester. She is holy shit, like she's not yet two. Okay. This kid is the conductor of it all. She just she is magic. And like that her world could be one day structured around that complete capacity to just
Emily the Mystic (06:45.617)
Wow.
Jana Stern (07:00.738)
draw it all into herself is like, I mean, what kind of world would we be in if we didn't force kids to like be standardized, tested or, you know, force people to look at the world through, well, I haven't produced this yet. I can't tell you how many other projectors I meet that are like, my God, I'm so burnt out. I'm so tired. I don't, you know, I I can't, I just can't do it the way that other people do it. And I'm like, you're literally not designed to. Like, that's not your design. But like if you're not taught about, you know,
Emily the Mystic (07:09.137)
Yeah.
Jana Stern (07:30.535)
your all all of these things, if you're if you don't know these things about yourself, it's very easy to get lost in what the conditioning is. And so a lot of my work is about deconditioning and I talk a lot about that through, you know, all kinds of different portals, EFT and, you know, through the lens of astrology and quantum human design and tapping in with the astral and the Akashics and all the things that we are absolutely you know, cabbala and so many other, you know, modalities and and things that I've
Emily the Mystic (07:39.069)
Mm.
Jana Stern (07:58.657)
spent decades of my life dedicated to. but yeah, you know, I'm I'm really just a woo girly with a big fucking mouth who's just like, guys, it's all make believe. Can we do better than this? Like what the fuck is going on in this reality? Why are any of you believing in any of polarities? Nothing is real. Dissolve it all. Kill, you know, I always say like, yeah, you know, left wing, right wing, it's the same bird and the bird needs to die. Like why are we, why are we so divided on anything? It's just crazy.
Emily the Mystic (08:25.691)
I agree. I know.
Jana Stern (08:27.342)
Crazy. It's so that's that's who I am, I guess.
Emily the Mystic (08:31.357)
I frickin' love that quote when you said, All of this is make believe and we've been making it up all wrong.
Jana Stern (08:37.332)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I mean, we are, you know. So much of what we've been programmed by in this really primal way has been about all the wrong things, right? It's a bit about like, are we surviving? Well, we've survived for millennia as a species, and now it's about creating a reality where we can really not be only focused on like, you know.
the s the the survival because that survival thing has created monsters that are now anti-survival, right? Like why do we have billionaires that put plastic in everything? Why do we have poison on our food and in our you know, in our medicines and i why why, why, why, right? The big question is why? And the answer is like, because we're making it up wrong. We're we're focusing on the wrong
thing on the lack, on the not enoughness. And we have to like pivot into this wholeness that I call the cornucopia living because in that cornucopia, you know, everybody comes, they're whole, they're complete. They've they've brought the gift that they are and they're like, this is my enoughness. Look at it. Look how beautiful it is. I'm really good at, you know, painting, I don't know, really realistic photos of spiders. And people are like, my God, I was looking for a spider realistic painting.
Emily the Mystic (09:47.197)
Mm.
Jana Stern (10:04.086)
And like it's crazy that you make a realistic spider painting. And then, you know, they're like, my God, that's exactly what I was looking for. Like those synchronicities can only happen when everybody's in that totality and in that enoughness, right? Like as soon as you don't trust in the enoughness, the signs don't come through and then you feel betrayed by the universe or God or whatever. Right. So yeah, I I think we gotta we gotta realign into that, I think. No, no big deal.
Emily the Mystic (10:17.693)
Mm.
Emily the Mystic (10:31.617)
I no big deal. I couldn't agree more. And I mean I couldn't imagine be there on Thursday. I couldn't imagine not living my life this way, you know, where the synchronicities just paint the magic. Yeah. It's hard to imagine going back. It's crazy.
Jana Stern (10:36.674)
Be there on Thursday.
Jana Stern (10:41.976)
Sure. Now totally, totally. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Totally. Yeah.
Emily the Mystic (10:51.899)
Okay, so what happened with this near death experience? Take us through that.
Jana Stern (10:55.166)
Hmm. yeah, I was I was having a bad day. yeah, yeah, I was having a bad I was having a bad I was having a bad like reality. I was having a a a bad perspective on what it was to be alive. I like I said, my father is schizophrenic and I was a child who could hear crystals and I could hear
Emily the Mystic (11:01.213)
Obviously series of bad days.
Emily the Mystic (11:16.317)
Mm.
Emily the Mystic (11:22.941)
Mm.
Jana Stern (11:23.03)
All kinds of voices. And that was terrifying. And so I, in my what I call forgetting phase of my life, which is, you know, the that like 12-ish to 20-something, depending on your life path and and your placements and all of that stuff. you know, I was sort of shoving down all the gifts and putting them away and and pretending that they weren't there, and by doing so, I was starving them and myself.
Emily the Mystic (11:37.863)
Yeah.
Jana Stern (11:48.262)
so I had developed an eating disorder. And the eating disorder, I don't know if you know this, but when you're hungry, you can get kind of nasty and a little bit down on reality. Didn't didn't clue into that one. Yeah, exactly. And so yeah, I spent a lot of years pretty damn hungry, and then it turned into, you know, a form of bulimia that that got really out of control, and then the anger was really out of control. And so because of my father's diagnosis, they gave me the diagnosis of
Emily the Mystic (11:55.868)
Mm. Who knew?
Jana Stern (12:15.139)
Bipolar, and then they were like, no, no, no, we don't think it's that. Maybe it's borderline personality, which, like, if you've ever done any research on BPD, it's all just like you've not been treated well, and the well that you've not been treated manifests in a particular kind of anger and a particular kind of reactivity and attention seeking and all those things. And I knew that it needed a lot of work to change those things. And my eating disorder had escalated. I wasn't able to like.
digest water because everything was just simply coming up. I was so accustomed to purging whatever went in. And I went to my doctor and I was like, what do I do? And she was like, well, maybe you address the elephant in the room. And I was like, sure. And I went home and I had been trying to find the right medication for what at the time were like these multiple diagnoses. And so I didn't want to do all the work. So I emptied out all these half
Emily the Mystic (12:57.565)
Mm.
Jana Stern (13:12.793)
Full bottles of different pills, lithium and zero quil and this and that and the other. And I swallowed 80 pills and tried to kill myself. And then I looked at my little dog who was the love of my life. There she is, right there, as my little rascal. and I thought, fuck, I live alone. What if what if nobody checks on me for days? So I called my brother and I was like, hey, can you come get Ras? And he was like, Why? And I was like, Well, and he was like, Yeah, I'll come and get her if you'll call 911. So
Emily the Mystic (13:21.777)
God.
Jana Stern (13:43.114)
I did. And I I slipped in and out of my body and I was gone for eleven minutes and they brought me back. and then had a nice little stint in the psych ward where my father spent most of my childhood for a couple of days. and then started on the journey of being like, shit, I am still here and I have chosen to return. My it while I was on the other side, my great grandmother's stepped forward and said, You're
Emily the Mystic (13:57.671)
Yes.
Jana Stern (14:12.441)
Too early, but here's what it would look like if you choose to go on. and if you go back, then you have to commit. And so I did. And I did. And it's not been linear or easy, but it has been beautiful and in this sort of twirling, dizzying dance, like just really, really miraculous. And I've experienced
Miracle after miracle after miracle and also trauma after trauma after trauma. And those two things get sort of wound together and it's hard to pull them apart sometimes and all of those things. But yeah, you know, it th it was such a pivotal moment in my life. And I don't I know I didn't know it at the time, but it did start me on a path of recognizing that.
The voices that I hear, which then after I returned to my body, it was straight up mediumship. I could, you know, communic communicate with those on the other side and bring through messages and all of that kind of good stuff. And so it it really just like kept, you know, people always say, like, how did you get into this? And for a while before my show was called The Just Jana Show, it was called I'm Really Into That Stuff, because people would ask me, How did you get into it? And I would always say, It got into me. Like,
Emily the Mystic (15:11.59)
Wow.
Jana Stern (15:30.165)
There was no there was no escaping. There was no there was no alternate route. It was like, girl, you wanna be in this life, you wanna be in this body, in this reality, you better face the fact that like you are clearly very spiritual, very tapped in, very connected, very capable of hearing the voices and making it mean something different than it has meant to everybody in your lineage before you. And, you know, being a curse breaker and a cycle breaker and, you know, a big mouth.
shit talker, which is what I often refer to myself as. And you know, all those things, like none of it is an accident. And I know that and it's all in my chart. And I'm so grateful for it. And yeah, you know, it was it was this big moment that I think I I had the understanding on a very quantum level, like, whoa, I'm really I'm really, really choosing to like stick with it. And sometimes that's harder than other times. Like lately it's been pretty hard to stick around. I'm like, remember how nice it was but
Emily the Mystic (16:27.205)
I'm doing it.
Jana Stern (16:28.391)
But I'm here and I'm doing it. Which is why I go on on all these podcasts and have my own so that I can just like talk it out. Cause, you know, my Gemini Moon doesn't ever wanna shut up.
Emily the Mystic (16:36.541)
Yeah.
No. We have to yap. We have to yap about it to heal.
Jana Stern (16:41.251)
Yeah, gotta yap. Gotta yep. Exactly.
Emily the Mystic (16:47.517)
Okay, so when you came when you came to, you know, when you woke up in the hospital and in the days after that, was it a pretty immediate shift or were you still fighting being here? Like what did that look like?
Jana Stern (16:54.34)
Yeah.
Jana Stern (16:58.401)
No. No, no. No, no. It was it was very much like I had clarity on some level that something was gonna shift. I knew I was gonna start treatment for my eating disorder not long after that. And that was part of the resistance, was like, shit, something is gonna change here. I'm gonna have to take some radical responsibility. and there was a lot of weightiness to it. There was a lot of density to that. but I think
There was like a part of that essence of being there on the other side that doesn't leave you. Like anybody who's ever had a near-death experience of any kind, you don't forget that there is way more than what we look at and what we know here. And so it was a slow integration. And I needed a lot of guidance and help to get through it. I needed to learn practices like meditation.
Emily the Mystic (17:45.5)
Mm-hmm.
Jana Stern (17:56.564)
you know, I needed to dive into metaphysics to understand more about what this reality is and isn't, to receive a lot of different kinds of healing, to understand all the different modalities, you know, as many of them as I as I possibly could. I can't tell you that there's a single modality that I've ever heard of that I haven't spent at least six months or more, you know, uncovering and unpacking and diving into just to be like.
Where does that connect in the all that is that I visited once, you know? And so it was certainly not immediate. I was definitely still kicking and screaming about being here on a lot of levels, but I started slowly committing to moving in the direction. And dissimilarly to a lot of people who go through the process of treatments or rehabilitations or things like that, my will was like.
Emily the Mystic (18:26.717)
Mm.
Jana Stern (18:54.487)
I'm not doing this twice. I'm doing it once. And it's forward motion only. And a slip is not a fall, but I ain't fucking falling. I'm not falling back into the trap of this whole reality. I'm not falling back into the habits and the behaviors and the belief systems. I'm not doing any of those things. I'm committed to that I'm here for a purpose and I'm gonna follow that, even if it's hard and even if it makes no sense, and even if other people think that I'm crazy and even and even and even. So
Yeah. Like it definitely was not immediate, that's for damn sure. It was the agonizing five years of of being in therapies and and and all of that stuff. But but also committing to it it can be better if I if I let it be. And so what that looks like also like committing to gratitude and letting you know it be good that I'm here. Cause the thing that was sort of running in the background that I didn't know about was
Emily the Mystic (19:31.346)
Yeah.
Jana Stern (19:52.379)
That I was just constantly thinking about my way out, which as a Pisces, you know, we we rule death and and endings, right? And so death was just this ever-present thing in my life. And so I had to really, really learn to dance with it differently. And the mediumship forced me into that. It was like, yep, people, people do die and they are dead and they are here.
Emily the Mystic (19:56.126)
Right. Yeah. Yep.
Mm-hmm.
Jana Stern (20:14.452)
And this person is re relating to that dead person like they're not. And you need to dispel that myth on some level and and like yeah, there's just like so many layers to it, but definitely it was slow and steady progress.
Emily the Mystic (20:29.601)
my God. Okay. And also especially having a family history of schizophrenia, when did you first start to discern those voices in your head and realize, this is spirit and these are loved ones or these are spirit guides? And when you started to develop your gifts, what did that look like?
Jana Stern (20:34.518)
Mm.
Jana Stern (20:46.256)
I mean, it all sort of happened around the same time. I remember like needing to come out of the psychic closet, so to speak, because it required something. But I had to get really strong with like my own my own mental wellness. I had to start like journaling more, tracking more, following my moods.
Emily the Mystic (20:53.639)
Yeah.
Jana Stern (21:06.916)
I am an emotional projector. So understanding what that emotional wave even is and how it comes and goes and tracking it with my own cycle. And, you know, I had to like do all kinds of things like track the moon, track my period, track, you know, what I'm eating, how I'm eating, when I'm and having nothing to do with the eating disorder, but all of the like the wellness things that need to be there. but yeah, you know, it was
Emily the Mystic (21:09.373)
Right.
Emily the Mystic (21:29.789)
Mm.
Jana Stern (21:35.983)
I I I think a lot of unpacking those stories or or separating the the fear of becoming my father, which was the fear my whole life. I was like, one day I like I know I hear voices and I'm just gonna go fucking crazy like him. yeah, I think, you know, definitely my attempt certainly solidified, no, I'm not him.
Emily the Mystic (21:49.165)
Mm.
Jana Stern (22:01.71)
And I'll only become him if I let myself become him. That was very clear. Like sleeping in the same hospital that I knew he had spent most of my childhood in. I was like, girl, you are obviously making some fucking choices here. Like, stop choosing this. You know, I was just making it up wrong. And and I knew it. I I I could feel it, you know? And so, yeah, I think again, that that too has been a process and it's been one that.
Emily the Mystic (22:14.737)
Mm-hmm.
Jana Stern (22:30.35)
You know, my father he was out of my life from when I was thirteen until I was thirty. And at that, like at thirty, I really only saw him a handful of times until the pandemic when he walked himself on down from Toronto to Florida and showed up at his mom's house. And then for years he was homeless. And he's a huge reminder to me of how make-believe it is, because how I found him when he was homeless. I went down to Florida to my grandmother's house.
Emily the Mystic (22:50.343)
Mm.
Jana Stern (23:00.508)
And Saturn had moved off of my son. And so there's this big daddy transit, right? Saturn is daddy. And there was a full moon. And I just called him in. I was like, Okay, dad, I'm home. Come home. And so I was staying at his mom's house, which is the home that he grew up in. And he showed up at her front door at two o'clock in the morning the next night. Yeah. And and
Emily the Mystic (23:23.869)
No way. my god.
Jana Stern (23:28.128)
He was all the way out of his mind. He was as schizoid as one can be. He was four years homeless, not talking to anybody, mostly but himself, and barely stringing sentences, but really on these very, as I call them, like tight thought loops, you know, just these like little intuitive self that he wants to connect with. Where are my kids? I want these, you know, things. And and just that was it.
And when I asked him, you know, after on the third day, he told me he needed to go to the hospital. And I took him. And then he spent a year and a half getting well and and much better. And when I saw him when he was released from hospital, he was released back to the same town that my grandmother lives in. And so now they're close by. And I said to him, you know, Dad, how did you how did you know to to come home that day? And he was like, I saw your face. And I was like, What? And he said, I have extrasensory perception.
Emily the Mystic (24:19.397)
Wow.
Jana Stern (24:23.202)
And I was like, me too. So it's allowed for me to really communicate with him in that dimension a lot, but also to really validate for people. That realm is so fucking real, especially when you're so tapped in or tapped out as he is. and that you can control it and that there is a way to navigate those waters. I mean, he has a stellium and Scorpio with cinco planets in there. So
Emily the Mystic (24:43.579)
Yes.
Jana Stern (24:52.488)
you know, he's extraordinarily psychic, but and so is his mother and so is her mother. and so yeah, you know, there's there's lots of layers to all of it. And some of it is intergenerational wounding, and some of it is you know, all of those things. But I I I don't think there was a moment to answer your question with the longest answer possible. I don't think there was a moment. I think that it has been a lifetime of building in that direction so that when
Emily the Mystic (25:05.297)
Mm-hmm.
Jana Stern (25:19.892)
I heard after, you know, months of not of being away from my grandmother, go down there again. I went down and literally two nights later there he was at our front door. Cause I said so.
Emily the Mystic (25:34.501)
insanity and I f yeah and I feel like based on everything you shared, you're the first person in your lineage to gain control over the gifts.
Jana Stern (25:35.673)
Right.
Jana Stern (25:43.332)
Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Psychedelic sheep.
Emily the Mystic (25:50.449)
Ha ha.
Jana Stern (25:56.068)
Yeah, yeah.
Emily the Mystic (25:57.566)
What an unbelievable story. And then you s okay, so then take us through. We're studying the modalities, we're learning, we're healing, we're going on the wellness journey. When did you start learning about your love of helping other people with this work?
Jana Stern (26:15.6)
I think that was that's also innate in me. It just it just is. I've always been, you know, the advice giver, the the good friend who's who shows up for people and really, really holds your hand through the darkness, whatever that darkness is. Again, I have a Scorpio stellium myself. so you know, I'm I'm I'm there in the dark of the waters with you, whoever you are.
Emily the Mystic (26:24.337)
Mm.
Emily the Mystic (26:35.256)
Mm.
Jana Stern (26:43.844)
But then as I started to really get deeper in the modalities and to understand so much more about the different access points to understanding yourself, which of course I did through the understanding of myself, I sort of developed different ways of of helping people to access themselves from that higher realm. And it just again, like it all.
got into me. There has never been a time where I wasn't the friend who had good advice. but then, you know, after my attempt, I started to carry around this Oracle deck with me that just had photos. It just had images. There was no it was like you know different shapes and and fractals and stuff. and I I carried around with me everywhere.
And I would pull it out. And you know, it had a little booklet with descriptions that were, you know, a paragraph long. But I would just pull people would I would go to strangers and let them pull cards. And suddenly I'm just giving all these messages, your loved ones, this, and da-da-da-da-da-da-da. And I was making people, you know, so emotional on the street. And then I was working in retail, and people would come to me, and it was so clear that what they needed was the energy that I was giving. They didn't need the like dress or the jeans or the whatever, they needed Jana.
Emily the Mystic (27:53.669)
Mm.
Emily the Mystic (28:07.986)
Mm.
Jana Stern (28:09.187)
And so, you know, I started to bring people back to my home and charge them a little bit for for the readings. And then, you know, that sort of grew and grew and grew and grew. And then I got certified as a life activation practitioner, which really sort of let me say the word healer and call myself that with some credibility of a 3,000-year-old lineage. And then I just kept going and kept building my own version of like.
Emily the Mystic (28:35.741)
Love it.
Jana Stern (28:39.023)
You know, if you brill if if you look at all the modalities, literally all of the modalities, they're all the same thing. It's all they're all saying the same thing. You are God, you are universe, you are source, you are creator, you are capable of everything. There are many access points back to self, which is God. Go be that through whatever way you can. And I believe it. I believe it about myself, I believe it about the universe, I believe that everything is is.
here for us in a very biblical way. You know, I think that every plant is here to to offer us a medicine or a a poison that has a solution. I think that every animal is here as a totem to teach us something. I think that every person we meet is a mirror for something that can be received for ourselves. And I think that our closest dynamics and relationships are here to teach us the biggest karma of who we can be. So yeah.
Emily the Mystic (29:38.48)
Mm. my God. Love it all. How so it sounds like you work with a lot of different modalities, and I couldn't agree more that they all say the same thing. Is there one in that mix that you're particularly drawn to or that you love or that you've resonated the most with throughout your studies?
Jana Stern (29:40.623)
Mm.
Jana Stern (30:00.368)
I guess it's probably astrology, but astrology to me links in with Kabbalah and links in with quantum human design and it links in with the Clare senses. And I, you know, in in the program that I teach psychic literacy that's available for purchase, I talk about how the Clare senses and the astrology and all of the dreams and astral realms and everything, they all link together. And so I guess the the foundation is astrology.
Emily the Mystic (30:07.483)
Yeah, true.
Emily the Mystic (30:24.721)
Mm-hmm.
Jana Stern (30:30.565)
But I think the foundation of humanity is astrology. I think you you you came in to be you exactly. And so of course it's the foundation of everything. But the way that my my mentorship works is that it I I sort of braid all those threads together to make something very unique for you in the coaching, in the guiding, because you might be going through a divorce or a new career shift, or you might be going through, you know, becoming a mother or
whatever it might be. And so I you know, what you might need in the moment, week to week to week, is completely different. So there isn't one thing that I'm like extra loyal to necessarily, but certainly the astrology is something that I come back to over and over and over again.
Emily the Mystic (31:19.151)
Yeah. And I would love to know your thoughts on the concept of fate versus free will, especially when it comes to the astrology. Like how do we feel about the birth chart? Would you say that the birth chart shows the map of your whole life path? How much control over that do we have? Are we creating the reality? Like what what's what are your thoughts on that?
Jana Stern (31:34.758)
Mm-hmm.
Jana Stern (31:41.749)
I th I believe that there is divine destiny, very much, undoubtedly. And I think that our free will arrives us at that destiny. So, for example, let's say that, you know, like the the best way I can sort of liken it is like
Emily the Mystic (31:55.889)
Mm, mm.
Jana Stern (32:04.94)
I knew that some of my my my lifelong best friend lives in Bali. She has lived there for 14 years. And I knew that part of my life path was that I was going to eventually arrive in Bali. Now I tried in April of 2020 and I had flights booked and the whole thing. And I don't know if you guys know what happened in April of 2020, but it didn't happen then. So five years later, when I booked my trip the second time, ironically, the day that I was leaving.
Emily the Mystic (32:19.005)
Wow. Didn't happen. Mm-hmm.
Jana Stern (32:32.878)
Here in Toronto, a plane the morning I was le I was booked for a 5 p.m. flight to fly to Vancouver and then to Singapore and then into Indonesia, into Bali. That morning, at eleven o'clock in the morning, an airplane landed in Toronto and flipped upside down on the ice. And everybody was freaking out. And they were like, my God, are you gonna fly? And I was Fuck yeah, I'm gonna fly. It's not gonna happen twice. So I can
Emily the Mystic (33:01.149)
Yeah, true.
Jana Stern (33:02.384)
Right. So I get to the I get to the airport and I everybody was miserable. It was February, peop you know, flying in February, not great. There had been a snowstorm the day before, so all the flights have been canceled. So now it's day two, and the plane had been upside down, so no flights the day before. Those who had been delayed are now double delayed. Everybody's in a mood. And I'm like, I'm going to Mali. And so I don't give a fuck. And
Emily the Mystic (33:10.141)
yeah.
Jana Stern (33:31.002)
I said to I get to the counter and I'm letting people go ahead of me. I'm like, it's my flight to Vancouver is already whatever. I'm like, I don't care what the flight route is, I know I'm getting there. So I would get up to the front of the counter and I said to the lady, and I was all sugar and spice, and I said to her, Listen, I don't care how I get there, just get me there. She was like, Okay. So she flew me instead to Amsterdam, Amsterdam to I forget where, and then from wherever to Bali. And so I got there.
Emily the Mystic (33:36.391)
Getting to Bali. Yep.
Emily the Mystic (34:01.029)
God amazing.
Jana Stern (34:02.224)
Right. So I think that free will works like that. There is a destiny. There is a destination at which we will all arrive. And there is something for us to be learned there. And the beautiful things that I received alone and with my best friend and her husband while I was there were like such gifts and changed so much of me. And there this was right when my father had gone into hospital. I had, you know, I was in the process of ending a five almost year relationship.
Emily the Mystic (34:22.79)
Mm.
Jana Stern (34:30.128)
With somebody who I loved dearly, and lots was changing in my life. And this trip was so destined. It was so clear that I needed to be there. And literally down to the last minute of arriving there, it was like, I don't know, like the how it's gonna happen. Well, my free will was like, I'm gonna, I I know I'm gonna get there. I'm gonna take this action. I could have not even gone to the airport and been like, well.
Emily the Mystic (34:31.921)
Mm, mhm.
Jana Stern (34:56.25)
plane went upside down, who knows? But instead, I was like, no, I'm gonna use my free will to get me where I want to go. So when it comes to, you know, the chart and and life, I it's the same thing. I think that there are karmic things that we are meant to experience. And by the way, you can drop that chart around the planet and have a look at your astrocartography and understand how all of that works, which is another part of my practice, if that's you know, and in part of the mentorship.
but also there is this, you know, these choices that we make. And sometimes that makes it harder to arrive where the destiny is, and other times it makes it easier. And I think when we have that intuitive listening and we we follow that intuitive nudge, it does make it a hell of a lot easier, generally to live out the destiny that is ours.
And we do have free will to choose or not choose, but I will say to those who choose not to live out the free will, or or the destiny rather, who choose to use the free will to work against destiny, ooh, that's a rough those are some rough choices.
Emily the Mystic (36:13.853)
my God, so true. It's funny. It's almost like when you stop fighting yourself and you stop fighting the path that's right in front of you, it just it becomes so much more clear.
Jana Stern (36:16.71)
Yeah, yeah.
Jana Stern (36:20.796)
Mm-hmm.
Jana Stern (36:27.248)
Right. That's right. Yeah. Because even in that journey of getting to Bali, if I had been an asshole in line, if I had been rude to the woman at the counter, if I had not gotten out of my head, like there are so many little micro choices of free will that I was like, No, I'm gonna let people go ahead. I know I can see this family, they're desperate to get home. It's you know, the they whatever the things are.
Emily the Mystic (36:44.187)
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Jana Stern (36:51.738)
You know, I'm just gonna be a good person and do my best to do my best and hope that doing my best gets me to where I wanna be. That's enough, you know. Yeah.
Emily the Mystic (37:01.277)
Yeah. Completely. I love that. That's such a perfect ex real life example of how this works.
Jana Stern (37:08.59)
Mm. Mm hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's fun. Yeah.
Emily the Mystic (37:13.497)
It's so fun. my gosh. So we've had quite a wild year in terms of the astrology and the energy. So what are your thoughts on this year of the fire horse? How things have been for you, like personally, professionally, what's been moving in your world?
Jana Stern (37:29.042)
so much. yeah, I mean, it definitely has felt like a fire horse here for sure. You know, I've been like bareback on this mare just hoping and in twenty eighteen I fell off a horse and almost yeah, in in the jungle in Costa Rica was wild. and don't recommend that. Don't don't do that. But
Emily the Mystic (37:56.039)
Mm-hmm.
Jana Stern (37:56.894)
Will say, like it has felt that way. It has felt unbridled. And like it's just better to hold on tight and trust that the steed knows where she's going. She, you know, like she she's going. And I know that.
I can keep writing it out. It's been tricky. It's been a tough year for sure. And it's also been a fucking beautiful year. Some really incredible things have happened and also a lot has been dissolving and burning in the fires. And I'm I'm particularly excited to see what starts to come about in 2027 as the turning of the, you know, Kali Yuga happens and all this human design, you know, turn that we've been talking about since Raw channel.
Emily the Mystic (38:42.738)
Mm-hmm.
Jana Stern (38:43.475)
Human design, you know, the 2027 is a huge, huge, huge year. And so that's right. And so, yeah, you know, I I think the thing that I'm most looking forward to is you know, what I know is coming, which is sort of something along the lines of like the the healers, the mystics, the guides, the teachers, the the true ones, the ones who are like operating from that good.
Emily the Mystic (38:47.631)
It's the turn.
Jana Stern (39:11.997)
place, whatever the fuck that means, that that our time is now. And that, you know, I literally returned into my body for this moment. And that there is so much more I have to say. And that there is so much more that we all have to to settle into and and learn to love about ourselves and learn to, you know, untell about what is true and to make
Destiny unfolding that much easier, and also to change all of the dynamics of how we relate to ourselves and how we relate to our families. And, you know, hear about all these people who've gone no contact and all these people who are working through huge trauma and learning about somatics and learning about all the things that I've spent the past 20 years, like deep in kind of in an isolation chamber. I'm really, really, really excited to see like what happens.
Emily the Mystic (39:58.578)
Yeah.
Jana Stern (40:05.011)
When all when they start to catch on, you know, when they start to be like, What what do you know? You seem to be great in this chaos. What what's happening? What do you know? And so the answer is like, I know a lot, and also I don't know anything. And you know, so that's right, exactly. And so yeah, you know, I think that's part of it. And then I think, you know, a lot of what I'm calling in is just like.
Emily the Mystic (40:13.479)
Chaos.
Emily the Mystic (40:21.233)
Yep. Same. The more I know, the less I know.
Jana Stern (40:33.947)
you know, being able to lend my gifts to more more more people in more impactful ways. I no longer do one off sessions. I don't even do small containers. It's the full year, you know, of of really committing to yourself or nothing. because like I want to be able to help facilitate in retreats more and and be that kind of support and be in events and, you know, really, really show up.
Emily the Mystic (40:47.869)
Mm.
Emily the Mystic (41:01.02)
Mm.
Jana Stern (41:02.329)
One to many as opposed to one to one. Not that I don't make a huge impact. I know I do. I've seen my clients literally change their entire lives. But for me, my own wellness and fulfillment comes from when I know that many people are understanding the message that is dying to come out of my mouth. And so yeah, I'm just kind of looking forward to what that looks like and and how the universe kind of makes that game.
reality for me, you know? Yeah.
Emily the Mystic (41:33.627)
Yeah. What are what are your thoughts on 2027? Any predictions or insights or anything you feel called to share?
Jana Stern (41:39.124)
I don't love to future predict, but I will say that there is obviously going to be a change in the way that we relate to one another. Quite clearly, there is an agenda of division that has been working. and, you know, even the gender war is.
Emily the Mystic (41:51.666)
Yeah.
Emily the Mystic (41:58.652)
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Jana Stern (42:07.057)
The denial of a Martian and Venusian self that exists within ourselves. And you cannot separate the inner masculine from the self, just as you cannot separate the inner feminine from the self, having nothing to do with the body you incarnated into or the gender that you identify as. And so, you know, getting hate.
You know, men hating women, women hating men, like all of this, it's just it's not sustainable. And actually it ends humanity. Like literally, you know. I mean, if you look at what's happening in in Korea, like their birth rate is way down because the women were like, nah, we're not, we're not fucking you anymore. We you don't respect us and now no babies for anybody. And their birth rate is way down. Yeah. And so like
Emily the Mystic (42:42.141)
Mm-hmm.
Emily the Mystic (42:59.813)
That's crazy. Yeah.
Jana Stern (43:02.681)
you know, like fascinating experiment and like way to go on on standing on business, but also like, ugh, you know, we're just gonna like extinct ourselves because men couldn't act right and women couldn't forgive in the way that we're meant to, you know, like, ugh, don't like any of that. So I think that 2027 will be the beginning of that. And I think we'll see that in a in a way that needs to humanize
Emily the Mystic (43:19.685)
Right. completely. Yep.
Jana Stern (43:31.109)
all the humans, you know, I'm I'm Jewish and sure as shit don't feel humanized in this world. So, you know, God willing, that will shift. and I I think we'll see a shift also in the ways that we dehumanize, you know, the other side, whatever the other side is, you know, they voted for this person or they believe in that thing or they don't believe in this other thing. I mean, it's all become so divisive and what will happen is,
Emily the Mystic (43:36.955)
Right. Yeah.
Jana Stern (44:01.085)
Yeah, the cell will split. but then it will create new life eventually. and and I think that twenty twenty seven is going to be a really interesting
moment of of like reckoning in ourselves, in our systems of of family, in our systems of community, in our systems of like, well, real harm is being caused and also real healing is possible, you know? So I think we're gonna start to understand that in a new
more more practical, realistical way than I think we've ever been able to before. I think something totally new and different is gonna sh start to show its face because thank God there are millions of children on this planet around the world who are so close to source that are here to remind us that we all, no matter our religion, our race, our gender, our whatever
Emily the Mystic (44:59.655)
Yeah, yep.
Jana Stern (45:07.016)
All the children of the world deserve to feel safe, deserve to be, you know f to feel close to God all of their lives, that they don't need to go through the forgetting. They don't need to go through the conditioning that says you're not good enough. And that only happens, by the way, through the parents doing their work. So there's a whole episode on the Just Janet show all about that. That actually went out today. So yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Emily the Mystic (45:30.173)
Amazing. Yes. I love that. I mean, such a powerful perspective too. And just makes you realize how I feel like a huge part of this new shift that we're going through is how, like you said, how we relate to each other and how we connect and realizing that it's not us against each other. It's sort of like us against everything that's been keeping us separated for so long.
Jana Stern (45:58.089)
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Yeah.
Emily the Mystic (46:01.765)
Yeah. And remembering too that like you said, the youth of our society, they are born with these really powerful gifts. And coming in with this the whole world, that's what I meant. Yeah. Totally. It's insane. Yeah.
Jana Stern (46:10.664)
Not just our society, like the whole world, these babies. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's miraculous, you know. I'm I as a woman with no children, I spend all of my time around my nieces and my nephews and the the children that I love who call me auntie, listening and and observing. What do you know? Because I know you know something I don't know. Like if I don't know anything, which I don't, y'all have the answers. So, you know, a lot of a lot of all of this is that.
You know, they are still very self-directed. they're they're not yet directed to condition to to what does this the society around me need? What is the community, the family? It's really I need, I need, I need. And that need is so miraculous. And that's how we get to this change of of.
not being in division because we've separated ourselves. We've created ourselves as these caricatures of like how nasty we are in our heads to ourselves. We gotta unlearn that. We gotta reprogram, rewire, you know, just do all all of the things that are somatically correct, that are energetically correct, that are metaphysically correct, so that we can realign into what we're really here for. And I think we'll see that in 2027. I think we'll start to understand
Emily the Mystic (47:09.285)
Right. Mm-hmm.
Jana Stern (47:27.154)
What are some of the practices that people have never heard of that many of us ha you know, mystics have been teaching? and, you know, who who are the guides that will help me to get there and what do they know? And how do I how do I get on board with them? And, you know, what are the different portals to work together? And what are the ways that I have to retreat from life and then return to it? And how do we create systems that are based on that? You know, to my point about living by our our design, you know, I think we're gonna start to build the cornucopia, I hope.
Emily the Mystic (47:37.757)
Mm-hmm.
Jana Stern (47:56.966)
So we'll see.
Emily the Mystic (47:58.686)
Hell yeah, building that cornucopia. Obsess. So what do you have going on in your business right now? How can people work with you?
Jana Stern (48:00.713)
Let's go. Yeah.
Jana Stern (48:11.484)
So like I say, there's I have a twenty-one day course that has some EFT prompts that you get sent every week. sorry, every day rather for 21 days. And there are three very extensive course clock classes in there that teach you all about a lot of what I'm talking about and how to understand where
Emily the Mystic (48:29.703)
Mm-hmm.
Jana Stern (48:31.058)
Your own intuition lives in your body, in your chart, in your energy field, and the ways that you can tap in with it and start to work with it in a meaningful way, with real examples of people's charts and all that kind of stuff, just to have you on a understand it on a on a deeper level. And then to literally use the EFT to tap in that trust into yourself. and then
Emily the Mystic (48:39.175)
Mm.
Jana Stern (48:52.42)
I work in a one-year container in Psychic Mastery, where we literally start with your chart and we go into all the depths and do a very, very deep dive into that. and then we spend one year going and guiding through all of your intentions, your dreams, your desires, your wants, your things that you can't stand about yourself and how to rewire all of that, you know, all the dynamics with your parents and your siblings and your partners and
your children and any of the things in your life. And then it's week to week to week dropping in and really, really going deep to understand what the hell is in the way today. And then can you get out of your way? And can you there's often what I call playwork where we're, you know, maybe it's a book you got to read or, you know, maybe it's some other modality to look into or a crystal to buy or a something else to work with. But it's really, really custom and all of it is, you know, for the
Emily the Mystic (49:21.789)
Mm.
Jana Stern (49:49.0)
you know, intention of in a year, life is completely different. When I look back to one year ago, I'm a different person. And I know that that's true of almost everybody I know. So the what's awesome is that when you learn to track your life and create the intentions for that, you
Emily the Mystic (49:58.405)
yeah, that's crazy. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Jana Stern (50:11.529)
So many miraculous things can start to open from that. And I've watched it again and again and again and again with all of my clients. You know, I've seen people come out of one marriage and enter into another become mothers. I've seen, you know, mothers and daughters come back together in a way that is so meaningful. Like just so many things. So
It's like the gift of my of my life to be able to weave all of these different modalities and to see what's there for us week to week, month to month. And sometimes we set intentions for the month of like, well, this seems to be arriving. Let's really focus in on that or whatever it might be. But we get really, really, really clear on what the goals are and then help you to achieve them. So it's cool. Mm-hmm. Some people
Emily the Mystic (50:52.817)
That sounds so yummy. What a delicious way to dive into your journey over the course of a year.
Jana Stern (50:57.691)
Mm-hmm. Exactly. So yeah, you can apply. I'm I there are obviously limited spots because I have limited bandwidth and energy for all of that, but you can apply apply on my website, Janistern.com and then slash I think it's work with me. I think that's the backslash. Great. Yeah, yeah, cool. Yeah. Mm.
Emily the Mystic (51:05.425)
Mm.
Emily the Mystic (51:12.945)
We'll leave it in the show notes. So yay. Easy. And of course we have to wrap up this episode by talking about being a mystic. So Jana, what does being a mystic mean to you?
Jana Stern (51:25.191)
it means living a life in integrity with the earth, with spirit, and with the self. I think that to be a mystic, there is a great beyond that you have to know, but then you have to live it in your body and you have to live it in in your daily life. And that doesn't mean necessarily every day you have to be regimented in a practice, though I have become quite regimented in my practice. but it does mean, you know, staying in
Emily the Mystic (51:39.961)
Mm.
Jana Stern (51:53.448)
In integrity. So if you're not in your practice, then at least being able to say, hey, I'm not in my practice right now and I'm not okay, and and coming back to it. And I think that integrity also includes like needing to have your own occasional ego death and you know, casual depression episode, and then pulling yourself back up and remembering that it is all make-believe and that we can make it up better. you know, and and so I I yeah, I think that.
Emily the Mystic (52:00.734)
Yeah.
Emily the Mystic (52:10.403)
Mm-hmm.
Emily the Mystic (52:19.633)
Yeah.
Jana Stern (52:23.569)
That's that's part of I think that's what a being a mystic is. It's not so much about like, you know, doing forty-five ayahuasca ceremonies or, you know, drum circles or any of that nonsense. But I I I those are those are great things to involve yourself in if if you if you do. but I think it's not really about any one particular thing. It's about like just remembering that you are here to express God for a moment as this unique individual who is connected to everything.
Emily the Mystic (52:52.825)
it and I think that's so important to say too, especially as someone who's been doing this work for decades, you know that you've been through your own cycles where things have felt really light and times when things have felt really heavy and you've seen yourself through all of it. So just because you're in the work doing the work doesn't mean your life is, you know, easy and miraculous all the time. So I love what you said earlier about how sometimes the trauma and the miracles they weave themselves together.
Jana Stern (53:01.619)
Azure?
Jana Stern (53:06.069)
Yeah.
Jana Stern (53:13.609)
Yeah, yeah.
Jana Stern (53:19.613)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Exactly. Exactly. And and that trying to shame one or elevate or pedestal the other perpetuates both or neither, which is not not good. You don't want stagnancy. Yeah.
Emily the Mystic (53:35.641)
Mm-hmm. Right.
Definitely not. Any final tips for living a mystical life?
Jana Stern (53:45.717)
let it all work out. Yeah, yeah. You know, that's that's a Lupe Fiasco song. Let it all work out, I think. Or a little John, maybe? I don't know. Whoever it is. It's a great it's I don't know. But yeah, it's you know, let it work out. The the the divine destiny is unfolding. You can use your free will and you can lean in or you can resist, you can, you know
Emily the Mystic (53:49.613)
I w yes. Friggin' love that.
Emily the Mystic (54:00.701)
I love it.
Jana Stern (54:15.465)
Battle yourself or you could not. but it's gonna work itself out one way or the other. So don't doom yourself into the world is ending and it's all terrible. And also don't get lost in the mysticism of it all. And, you know, it's all love and light and fairy tales, because it's not either of those things. Just let it all work out. God's got it, I think. Mm-hmm. Totally. Yeah.
Emily the Mystic (54:36.99)
God's got it. Hell yeah. Perfect way to end the episode. I'm obsessed. Well, thank you, Jana, for coming on the show. We'll leave all of your info in the show notes so the listener can find you and follow you and go listen to Jana's podcast, The Just Jana Show. You're welcome. All right. the listener, the portal is now closed.
Jana Stern (54:46.303)
Thank you, Emily.
Jana Stern (54:51.901)
Awesome.
Thank you. That's right. You're fantastic.
